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Blog EntryWhy I am NOT a Christian of Jewish Descent...Aug 17, '07 1:24 PM
for everyone

...or perhaps more accurately, why I refuse to answer to the above description.

Generally I'm not very fussy about the terminology. I'm happy to call myself a Messianic Jew, but am okay about being called a Jewish Christian. After all, the literal meanings of Messianic and Christian are identical - though of course there are centuries of baggage attached to the word Christian, which is why I fully understand why some of my fellow Messianic Jews are not comfortable using that term.

I'm also comfortable with talking about Jewish Believers within the body of Believers, but once you use this term with other people it can be confusing - believer in what/who? (I have also come across the term JBY - Jewish Believer in Yeshua - which is more precise, but also a bit of a mouthful...)

But I was miffed when recently I heard someone talk about "Christians of Jewish Background", because to me this terminology seems to imply that our Jewishness is something that we shed when we come to faith in Messiah Yeshua, which is ridiculous especially considering that he is Jewish himself, and he never came to start a new religion!

P.S. For those unfamiliar with the Hebrew terminology, I'd better clarify: Yeshua is the Hebrew name which has been translated into English as Jesus. Messiah is translated into English (through Greek) as Christ.


koshercrooner wrote on Aug 18, '07
First and last I am Jewish. Jewish is me. As we recite in synagogue "I believe with perfect faith in the coming of Messiah" - one of the Jewish "Articles of Faith". "Though He tarry, yet will I trust" finished the statement of faith.

Am I a Christian? If that's the translation of the ancient title describing someone who is set apart from the general crowd.. chosen for a particular way or task.. then "Yes" I am a Christian.

BUT

BECAUSE I am and always will be a Jewish person then I cannot only be described as a Christian.

AFTER ALL haven't you heard... some Arabs are Christians..

AND - [SHOCK - HORROR - GASP!!!] Some Arabs are Israelis. Some Israelis are Arabs, and some Arab Christians are Israelis.

AND some.... [where do we stop?]

So how do I describe myself?

With reference to my faith.. I usually refer to myself as either a "Jewish believer" or a "Messianic Jew".

I'm a husband, a teacher, a father, a son, a brother, a guitarist, a singer, an uncle, a nephew, a Kosher Crooner, a Star Trek fan, an experimenting cook....

I don't use all these descriptions all the time.

I use what's appropriate in the situation.

AND if someone tries to label me as something I'm not then I'd like to let them know why they shouldn't. Politely, but with certainty.

that's that for the moment.

meirav wrote on Aug 18, '07
With reference to my faith, I also usually refer to myself either as a Messianic Jew or as a Jewish Believer - depending on who I'm talking to. But if someone were to come and say, are you a Christian? I'd have to answer yes, unless I use the Jewish variation on taking the fifth and say: Why? Who's asking?

Seriously though, it does depend who's asking and what they really want to know.

If they want to know if I'm a follower of Jesus, then the answer is yes. If they want to know if I've turned into a goy, then the answer is no, that's just not possible, I couldn't if I tried. Jewish is what I am. Just like I can't stop being a human being, I can't stop being Jewish. It's just a fact about me. It's just the way it is.

I don't know that I'd say as you do, first and last I'm Jewish. I don't know what I am first. A human being? A Jew? An Israeli? A woman? A writer? A follower of Jesus? A wife? A friend? A daughter? A sister? An Aunt? A neighbour? etc etc - the list goes on. I'm just me. That's all.

But on this particular subject there are two questions I would have to answer yes to.
If they come for the Jews and say, are you Jewish, I'll have to say yes.
If they come for the Christians and say, are you a Christian, I'd also have to say yes.
So I guess the bonus of being a JBY is that I can get persecuted for two reasons :-)
leilashapiro wrote on Feb 18
I dont ever like being called a Christian i find it ofencve so does my mother to,we are messianic jews we just believers in Yeshua Moshiach we are jews that are complete as Yeshua makes us complete as he also came not to distroy but to complete or take away he has fullfilled all things.
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