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Blog EntrySorry, I forgot about the coffeeMay 14, '08 8:38 AM
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Ages ago I wrote about what the English mean by teatime, and I promised another blog about coffee and cafés. The latest Multiply staff blog reminded me.

Not that I'm a coffee connoisseur by any means. I have always been an instant drinker (and by that I don't mean that I down my coffee quickly - I mean I drink that stuff that serious coffee drinkers wouldn't touch even if they were desperate) and in my youth I favoured what my friends referred to as "babies' coffee" - weak instant with lots of sugar and lots of milk. My biggest treat was if it was made with hot milk instead of hot water - I guess in today's terminology that kind of makes it a latte, only a not very high-quality latte...

But I digress. I was going to talk about what happens in England. Part of my culture shock on arriving here was on the coffee front, because back then - nearly two decades ago - they just didn't seem to have anything remotely approaching a decent cup of coffee. Not, as I've pointed out, that my standards were very high, which says a great deal about the low level to which the coffee here had sunk. And as an Israeli I still find it funny now the way the Brits tend to assume that you will drink tea - the more old-fashioned the person, the more likely they are to make this assumption. They won't ask you what you'd like to drink, they'll just talk about "putting the kettle on" and making "a nice cuppa", and they simply won't think of checking with you whether you actually want any tea.

In Israel we tend to make a similar assumption about coffee - in many an Israeli home when you walk in the door you are greeted not with "what would you like to drink?" (not that we have a way of saying that in Hebrew - we'd say "what do you want to drink?", which to the English ear may sound just a tad gruff...) but the question will be "coffee?" But at least, in our defence, I can say that we do actually ask. And if someone were to say, "actually I'd rather have tea" then we would find a teabag somewhere in a dusty corner of our kitchen. Even my Brazilian friend in Kfar Saba, who pretty much has coffee running through her veins instead of blood, is perfectly capable of rustling up a cup of tea for me. But here there seems to be some hard and fast rules that people don't even think about - it seems from my observation of the Brits that if you arrive any time in the afternoon, the drink you'd be offered is tea. Coffee is for mid-mornings, or elevenses; or as an after-dinner drink. It just isn't something you drink in the afternoons.

Unless, that is, you go to a coffee shop. That's where in the last decade or so the Brits have been practising American-style behaviour, ordering tall skinny lattes and short decaff mochas as though they've always done it. I well remember the beginning of the American-style coffee shop era - I was living and working in London at the time, and right next door to our office there was a bookshop which started running a coffee shop in a corner, and the coffee was so delicious it quickly became our regular morning treat, grabbing a latte in a disposable cup on our way in to work. It was so popular in our firm that one of the partners managed to arrange a staff discount for us. Not surprising when all we had in the office in terms of coffee was a kettle and a jar of instant. I get the impression that Americans would have gone on strike over such bad working conditions... (But from what I remember from my Israeli working days, all we tended to have in the office was a kettle and a jar of instant - except in some places where due to popular demand there was also a packet of Turkish Coffee, which was used to make what we call "mud coffee". We call it that because there's this huge amount of mud-coloured sediment at the bottom of the mug.)

The Brits may correct me, but I have the feeling the word "coffee shop" arrived with that trend from across the ocean. I think until then there were only cafés, where you could get a not-particularly-brilliant coffee if you asked for it, but also tea of course, and light eats.

And then there is the different kind of café, which is pronounced "caff" - sometimes referred to  fondly as a "greasy caff" or a "greasy spoon" (short for "greasy-spoon café) - which is really a basic down-to-earth restaurant where the plebs can go for a meal and feel at home, and the not-so-plebs go to enjoy the sort of food that the posh restaurants wouldn't dream of serving, even in an ironic post-modern style. This is where you can get the great British all-day-breakfast, which consists of bacon and eggs plus all sorts of possible additions: grilled tomatoes, fried mushrooms, sausages, baked beans, fried bread, and one of my favourite things: bubble and squeak, which I've been told was traditionally made of leftovers from Sunday lunch, and like so many dishes that developed as an attempt by poor people to make the food go just a bit further, is so much nicer than some of the super-duper gourmet food! In my single days in London, before I learned to cook and before I made the decision to stop eating pig, I used to sometimes go to one of those greasy caffs on a Sunday after church for a belated breakfast (never had time to eat before church, me being not very much of a morning person). These meals are obviously not what the health food brigade would recommend - some have referred to them as "cholesterol on a plate" - but they are certainly very filling! (and if you're on Atkins or any low-carb diet, then you can go for it with no qualms at all!)

So if you come to England and you see what looks like a no-frills restaurant offering "all day breakfast", "cooked breakfast", or "English breakfast", this is what they mean. You won't get any croissants there, that's for sure! (And don't expect a decent cup of coffee in there either. They'll do you a mug of what's fondly called "builders' tea" - so strong you can stand your spade in it. If you want a decent coffee, look for a smart place with a name that seems American. I shudder to think what reaction you'd get if you walked into a greasy caff and asked for a tall skinny latte... I expect the response would be along the lines of "you wot?")

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snowburst wrote on May 14
This reminds me of a Rita Rudner joke. I'm not quite sure I could capture the humor very well without the audio, but it was about the culture shock of visiting a friend in London who was originally from Brooklyn, where she spoke in the typical nasal squawk. She was surprised to hear her friend speak in a high-pitched breathy voice with a British accent, but she said the Brooklynese would slip every so often.

"Oh, you must meet my husband, Vincent." (calling behind herself) "Yo! Vinnyyyyyyyyyyyyy!"

"Would you like a spot of ... cawffee?"

Yes, the audio effect is so much better, but if you've ever heard American actress Fran Drescher speak, you get the idea.
qhyyim wrote on May 16
meirav said
These meals are obviously not the healthiest option - some have referred to them as
hey meirav, which part of these meals do you consider un-healthy??
    did you intend to imply we shouldn't eat cholesterol????
yeshiva wrote on May 16, edited on May 16
Caff? You must mix with some strange people Meirav. I've never ever used the word 'caff' - the correct pronunciation is always the better! I'm greatly surprised that you have not come across the best tea ever - Yorkshire Tea, in its distinctive containers with its distinctive flavour. Many of us recall the Lyons Corner Shops which were the first places to offer Brits outdoors some liquid refreshment. We then moved on to copy various possibilities from various countries, including but not limited to, France, USA and Italy, The now 'old' rule of coffee in the morning and afternoon tea is simply a perversion of the original tea-break that was taken part way through both morning and afternoon work and often served by a tea-lady from a large urn, whether on the factory floor or in the office (or, for senior managers, via one's secretary, on demand!).

The concept of greasy 'caffs' as you call them, has always been with us and they have served truck drivers and various manual or 'blue collar' workers. It is most unlikely that the majority of Brits would use them as a matter of first choice - maybe for convenience if no other option was available within 5 miles!. This concept of all day breakfast then exploded, the effect of which was to bring this idea to the 'white collar' workers in more refined surroundings. This was not an ideal solution, so coffee bars in one form or another began to arise offering continental breakfasts, of one sort or another, with a plentiful supply of the ubiquitous British cup of tea, or the more trendy coffee (of varying degrees of acceptability as to taste etc). Cheers!

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meirav wrote on May 16
yeshiva said
Caff? You must mix with some strange people Meirav. I've never ever used the word 'caff' - the correct pronunciation is always the better!
Norman, it is a matter of principle for me to mix with strange people, especially as I'm strange myself. Whilst I probably wouldn't say "caff" when visiting my in-laws, who "talk proper", I think most people I know regard "caff" as the correct pronunciation for somewhere that does cooked breakfast etc, and if I said I'm going to a "café" they would think I was going to a fancy Italian/French-style place for a cappucino and a croissant.

Personally my introduction to "greasy caffs" was in my London days, when I worked for a firm of tax advisors and accountants in Mayfair, and many people in our office liked now and again to pop round to the nearest (Italian-run) caff for a bacon sandwich. That place thrived in the middle of a posh area and there was normally not a blue-collar worker in sight.

Thank you for the recommendation about Yorkshire tea. I am certainly not a tea connoisseur and have not explored all that Britain has to offer in this area. My husband and I both like our tea extremely weak, and can make one tea bag last for days between us!
simonfam wrote on May 16
About twenty years ago in a small side street in Edinburgh I used to enjoy a great cup of coffee at a small Italian diner (you would call it bistro now) It was 60pence and really good coffee, later they branched out and added really good ice cream. I do remember the word "Caff", it usually refered to small tea shops that almost always sold everything with chips or bread, today it has a broader meaning but it is certainly slang. It is not posh, cheap and simple would get it.

I am in the UK only once a year and what can I say about coffee here is, it's expensive and all those new trendy coffee shops in their abundance don't always do great coffee, I have had a time finding places, and well, compared to that little coffee shop (and she was not alone in her trade) they do not measure up (yet she still lives if I need her!) Starbuks coffee is yhuk, it did not make it in Israel and closed.

My husband went to New York once and did not find a tasty brew of the stuff in all of his stay - he had to come back to Israel for a really aromatic trip (and he is not big big into coffee) . Here in Jerusalem even McDonalds serves good coffee cappacino style (or Hafuch as we call it) ONLY. and the salad is made fresh to order. (Israelis are fussy about their salad) I am not BIG into coffee but when I drink it I want it to be good.

thanks for the trip down memory lane.

meirav wrote on May 16
My husband went to New York once and did not find a tasty brew of the stuff in all of his stay - he had to come back to Israel for a really aromatic trip
Well, well, and there was me thinking the Americans know all about coffee...

But yes, I guess what I'm really missing here is Israeli-style cafés. There is nothing like it here (or at least if there is, I haven't found it).

And yes, the burger chains in Israel have got a different slant on things, I think they just wouldn't survive there if they only served the sort of stuff the Brits put up with. The selection of salads offered at Burger Ranch is great! And I really enjoyed McDonald's "McKebab" on my last visit home - yummy!
yeshiva wrote on May 16
Meirav, if you like weak tea then maybe Yorkshire Tea isn't the best for you - it is strong (although I suppose the tea bags could therefore last longer!) (:-)
meirav wrote on May 17
qhyyim said
which part of these meals do you consider un-healthy??
Hmmm... you're right, I didn't think what I was saying there. Have just edited it now
qhyyim wrote on May 18
thanks, but meanwhile you've deleted your own earlier comment. why??
    next thing you'll start deleting my comments too --
    perhaps i should shut up
meirav wrote on May 18
qhyyim said
next thing you'll start deleting my comments too
No way.

Would take something very extreme for me to delete what someone else has posted.
tavarich66 wrote on May 19, edited on May 19
I love Cafe Aroma, we went to one at tzomet Bilu last time we were over, the bucket of salad was amazing... unlike the soggy salads we are offered in McD's, caffs etc... over here. I used to love a good greasy spoon caff, but you should try the Ulster fry, otherwise known as the cardiac-on-a-plate!

I got adicted to coffee when on the kibbutz in the 80's, yep the mud turkish coffee. I can still feel my heart racing when I think of what the caffine used to do to my body first thing in the morning as I made my way to the boot factory for a long day's work.
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